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Arctic Spa – Brand Review
Video review, A look at Cedar Skirts, jetting, waterflow, insulation, clamps and cost.

Beachcomber – Brand Review
“This brand is a mixed bag. I find it really overpriced by a long shot, I saw the summer saver deal for 2017 and laughed so hard I almost cried. Some of the suggested retail prices are literally 2x what they are really worth.

That being said they build to the right standard. Balboa control and heating system, waterways jets, hand-rolled self-supporting shells, and glued and clamped plumbing lines. This is all the stuff I like to see in a Top Tub!”

Bullfrog – Brand Review
Bullfrogs, like most bands, are a bit of good a bit of bad and a bit of ugly. Those goofy pods really limit the area where the jetting can go. and are so expensive to replace $400-$700 that according to the dealers I have talked to very few people ever replace them. The whole premise is kind of whack, on any hot tub with good high flow Jetting you can change the Jets and customize a chair for $20 $40 a jet and you have more options because each jet can be swapped and it can be done simply and easily.

Strong Spas (Costco) – Brand Review
Video Review, one of my first videos and biggest hits, this one made the Reddit Front Page when it was posted! Check it out for yourself to see what we are all about.

Dynasty Spa – Brand Review
Video Review, I rank the electronic and flow control system, check out performance, price, insulation and plumping. Cradle supported which creates stress points! Great appearance but we take a look underneath and show you what is really going on.

Hydropool – Brand Review
“The next bit of misleading craziness is that they say that it is 100% filtration! This is just using a buzzword to fool you… How all filter systems really work is the water goes through a filter which cleans all the debris out of the water, then that water gets dumped back into the tub so right away it gets mixed into the unfiltered water… over time more and more water is filtered and after a few hours, there is no debris left. The only way to really have 100% filtration is to pump the water through a filter into another container, then once it is all filtered you can put it back into the hot tub… This is simply dishonest and they should not be claiming it is 100% filtration, it is marketing Spin all of it… ”

Master Spa – Brand Review
Video Review, Watch me take a look at my own Twilight Series 8.2 hot tub! High flow therapy jets, reverse molded neck jets, shell construction, parts, flow control systems and more.

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Deborah Lecce
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Hi, We have a baja spa #1044 that will only heat to 50 degrees.
The tub is 20 years old and our local dealer doesn’t think it’s work repairing since repair would be over
$2000. Any thoughts?
Don’t know how long a spa can last.

Paula
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HELP!!! Hi Chris, I have been trying to research hot tubs all over the internet and your sight seems to be the only honest, very informative and reputable site I have come across. We live in upstate New York 13078 where the winters can be brutal. We are looking for a lower priced spa due to our limited budget and locally the options we have to consider within our price range are either the Bahama ocean breeze made by dynasty spa or the caldera spa vanto. We definitely prefer the looks and options that the dynasty model has to offer… Read more »
Pat
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We are in the Phoenix area. Is there a dealer here you would recommend for a refurbished spa? We can see how important the dealer is no matter what we buy–but for a refurbished spa, it seems like the dealer would be critical.

Isabelle
Guest

Hi Chris, i’m looking for a good swimspa, i need a four seasons spa for Quebec (Canada) weather. My heart balance between a endless pool E500 (or maybe E700) 58 ” deep or a masterspa 60″ deep. I’m 5’3″ so do you recommand me a 15′ or 17′ lenght? Dealers are really far from my home so i’m trying to get the most informations before to go.
Thank you

Bill
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Hi Chris, love the site. The local dealer in Holland, MI sells Mira hot tubs and is suggesting the M800 NL spa. What do you think of the Mira brand? Thx

Edward
Guest

Chris, Thanks for the incredible resource in this site!

I’m in the market, without easy access to dealers, it seems. I’m in Millerton, NY, 12546. There’s a Master Spa dealer 90 minutes east, Lancing Spatech. 90 minutes west F&H Direct/The Spa Wholesaler reps Maquis.

I’m willing to hinge a purchase largely on the supplier’s reputation—any insight you might have on either of these dealers would be most appreciated.

Larry
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Hi Chris, are you aware of any Master Spa dealers in the Seattle area or are their spa expos the only option? Thanks for your help. Lars

stephen
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After reading enough of your site to almost make my head explode i put my money down on a MS Twilight 240 . I started off looking at entry level tubs mainly because it was only for 2 people and the selection of small tubs seems to be aimed at the entry or value market . The 240 gave me what i deemed to be good quality and options in a smaller overall package . The people at Niagara hot tubs ( Debbie) was very helpful and provided a very informative non pressure sales pitch . Thanks Chris for sharing… Read more »
SkyeHenley
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Such a great site, but still have questions. I’m in Seattle and we have local dealers for Hot Springs, Marquis, Caldera, and Fantasy. I wrote off Hot Springs thanks to this site. I am looking seriously at the Marquis Signature series Epic. Sales tells me the Marquis has Balboa and all non-Chinese parts and full removable insulation. The Epic is $11k, 12,800 with Microsilk. Warranty is 5 years. Roving expos have not featured Masters, so I have no way of wet-testing. The wet test in the Marquis yielded satisfaction except in the shoulders (the jets are too low, and hit… Read more »
stuart
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HI, great resource, thanks for all the info
I have been offered a brand new pinnicale spa hot tub discounted from 12.5k to 9 k is this a good deal.

cannot find much info on pinnicale spas?

thanks

James Zimmerman
Guest

Hey Chris, love the website. It is very informative. Based on your opinions and my research I’m sold on the Master… do you have a recommendation in charlotte NC?

Steve
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I am ready to purchase my first spa. I am trying to find one between 6,000-7,000. I did see 2 brands that I like. What are your thoughts on Canidian and QCA spas? Also is there another brand you would recommend in the price range. Thank You

Stephanie
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Hi Chris – Have been studying your site for awhile now. Can you tell me if there is a Master Spa dealer in the Columbus/Central Ohio area? Thanks, Stephanie

Mark
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Hi Chris – this is a great site! It’s been very helpful to cut through a lot of the marketing noise! I have already sent it along to a couple of friends who are also researching hut tubs…. I’m in Whitby Ontario and am looking for a 5 to 7 person tub. I’ve been reading up on a lot of the brands out there and want to find a reliable local dealer – I haven’t locked down the brand/model yet, but I have decided to stay away from the web & big box store options. So my questions for you… Read more »
Chris
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Hi Chris,

I am looking at the Marquis Celebrity ‘Hollywood’ and the Tropic Seas ‘Rio’. The Marquis is an entry level tub with minimal insulation, it only has a layer of thermal blanket (silver metallic wrap). While the Tropic Seas comes with a winterization package if I upgrade to add the circ pump. The price is about the same $6000. Any opinions about these tubs?

Also, what dealers would you visit in the Seattle area. I went to Kirkland Deck and Spa (tropic seas) and Seattle Hot tub (Marquis).

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,
Chris

Rob K
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Hi Chris – What size pumps come with the Master Spa TS 8.25? In your video you mention two 6hp pumps but I can’t find any specs on the MS website. Thanks!
Rob

Jerad
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Hi, I’m looking at a new hot tub, and your reviews of the Hydropool are scaring me off. I’ve been comparing the Hydropool 7000 serenity and the coast spa 7B. So my target is a 7 person, no bells and whistle tub, that is energy efficient and easily maintained (for the cabin) out close to Edmonton. Thanks

K
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We really found your site so valuable to us when we decided to replace our 1994 Hot Springs Sovereign. We toyed with the idea of a Costco drop ship, a Hot Springs or a Garden Leisure. Knowing what we know now, because of your site, we decided on a Master Spa Balance 8. Hands down the best quality we have seen! We are so excited to get it. One question I have though is we did not choose to upgrade to the vac formed abs pan bottom. We put a call into our sales guy tonight and hope to hear… Read more »
Geoff
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Hey Chris, my wife stopped by a hot tub expo in our area since we started the purchase conversation this weekend and unfortunately they are a buy now type of location so she is throwing a lot of questions that I can’t answer and hoping you can give us some direction .We are a family of 5 but more than likely with the older ones not around as often will be using it with 3 or 4 people at a time and we’re looking at the Twilight series 6.2 and the Bullfrog A6L. anything between the 2 that I should… Read more »
Mark from Ontario
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Very informative site Chris – kudos ! I have an opportunity to purchase a used spa due to a home reno. Here are the details; Calspa Avalon 6 to 8 person – 2007 model year Set-up has been under a covered shelter so out of the weather and also maintained by reputable pool company. It seems like it is as good as any 10 year old spa could be and was not visibly neglected. 2- 5 hp Motors (GE) runs on 240 V All new pumps installed last year 5K Heater If I buy it I will need to de-commission… Read more »
Greg
Guest

Love your website. Incredibly helpful information. I’m considering a Master Spas TS 8.2. I have been quoted an expo show price of $9,700 for this spa. Is that a fair expo show price? Thanks for your insight.

Andrew
Guest

This site is amazing. Thabk you for providing such great information.

We’re thinking about getting a Master Spa, but the Clarity line, particularly the Precision 7. We’re also looking at a Hot Spring Limelight Flash. Do you have a recommendation between the two? Just looking for a relaxation tub, not therapy.
The Hot Spring dealer is much closer to us than the Master Spas, but we found dealers for each.

Justin
Guest
Great job on this website. It has really made my research much easier! I’m looking at purchasing the Master Spa Phelps LSX 700. I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba and I’ve received a quote for CAD $15,585 including the bluetooth sound system, cover, cover lift, steps, and delivery. I have two questions for you. 1) Is this a good price? I’m having a really hard time finding prices posted online, and we only have one dealer that sells Master Spa in my area. 2) I was just going to get the base filtration system (ecopure charge). Would you recommend upgrading to… Read more »
Jason
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Hi Chris,
I’m looking at purchasing the Master Spa 8.2 twilight series. They have the expo in my area this weekend, but none with the MasterPur Water Management System upgrade in them, I would have to order the spa and have it shipped at a later date to get that option.
Is this something you would recommend or not for long term care?

Steven
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REMOTE TEMP CONTROL? Chris – based on your site, I bought a Twilight 8.2 & started it up yesterday. It’s at our cabin – 45 minutes from home. Left it at 102 deg, thinking we could go up tonight. Turns out we cannot go for couple days… which made me wonder – IS A WIFI remote control module available, as an add-on to the Balboa controls, for allowing me to change the temp remotely? (Thx for sharing your knowledge on hot tubs!)

Pam
Guest
Hi Chris, Thanks for all your time that you have put into this amazing and informative site! Here’s where I need your advise: We have decided on the Master Spa Twilight Series and we can purchase a 2017 floor model or a brand new 2018 model. 2017 TS 7.25 floor demo- $7700. (cover, steps, delivery, start up) 2018 TS 8.25 brand new- $8200. (cover, steps, delivery, start up) Both have a 3 year warranty. The dealer is saying that if we order the 2018 model we should add a circ pump due to the severe cold conditions we can experience… Read more »
Susan
Guest

Hi Chris,
We are in Toronto and looking to buy our first hot tub. Any recommendation on a good dealer in this area? For the cold winters, anything specific we should look for? Top priority for us is quality and comfort, not so much # of Jets.
We were at a trade show and almost got caught up in the sales pitch and almost committed to a $17k (all in) 8’ tub. Can you get a good tub for $10k? Remember, that’s Canadian $10k! 😉What do you recommend? Appreciate any advise! Thank you. Susan

Christopher
Guest

I’m having trouble finding a dealer in the Los Angeles area that sells Master hot tubs. Any leads?

Jonathan Rogers
Guest
Help, am I missing a quality option near me? My wife and I just began the process of buying a hot tub and I’m so glad I found your videos and this forum. I have always loved the research phase of making any large purchase and this one has been no different. Unfortunately now that I have read these questions with your answers and watched your YouTube videos I’m having difficulty finding one of your recommended spas near me. (SD 57252) Now granted, where I live there isn’t a lot near me in the first place, but usually we can… Read more »
admin
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Hi Jonathan,
It is a bit of a drive but I found a place near Aberdeen which carries Artesian Spas. I don’t know the dealer but the brand is one of the few I consider really good. Here is their website http://www.dakotaoutdoorliving.com/spaspools.html

Lisa
Guest
What a great site! We are in the market for a hot tub, probably for 6-8 people. I am really interested in the cool zone hot tub cooling system that I’ve heard about. We live in the Raleigh/Durham, NC area and it gets really humid in the summer. I’d love to have something cool to sit in during the day w/o going to the expense and extensive yard use of a pool. But I also love sitting in the hot tub at night to wind down with a glass of wine! Do you have any experience with this system? Can… Read more »
Tim
Guest

Great Site! How do you feel about Coast Spas? I’m here in Austin, Tx. and visited Austin Spas and Pools and they carry this brand. Looking at the Zenith. Also, what is the best type of foundation/base to put a hot tub on? Thanks!

Tess
Guest
What a phenomenal site– thank you for providing such candid information. For a number of reasons, I’m not quite ready to invest 7-10K for hot tub I may find myself not using. I’m fortunate that I have the resources to service and maintain a hot tub– friends that are electricians and plumbing on the side! From what I can gather, your tier one category is Master and Marquis then Artesian. Thereafter, Cal and lower is Bullfrog. I’m in the Cleveland, Ohio area, and virtually all brands are available new, while I see more Hot Springs, Caldera, Sundance, Viking, and Jacuzzi… Read more »
Bill
Guest
Chris — I stumbled upon your site, I’m impressed! I was hoping you could help me out. I am clueless about hot tubs — and am simply looking for a brand/model recommendation. Here is what is important to me as well as what I don’t care about: Important: 1) Extremely reliable – I’d much much rather pay upfront for high quality and then not have to worry. 2) I have a family of 4 — capacity from 4 to 6 3) Most of the time, I would say the primary use is socializing but it would be nice if at… Read more »
Craig Harland
Guest
i am confused about Tropic seas Spas, I was told by the dealer Spa World in Phoenix , that is is an Artesian Spa , one of the brands that you tout. On Artesian website there is no mention of Tropic seas. I feel that we were sold on the full foam and construction of a south seas spa and then sold a neighboring Tropic Seas Spa Kona which may not have the same build quality. I have to make a decision to cancel by Tue March 6 but am hoping to make it by Monday. We were handed a… Read more »
Anthony
Guest

Hi Chris I live out in Oshawa Ontario. I have been looking at the Masters Healthy Living 8, the TS 7.2 and Marquis Epic. I’m leaning towards the Marquis. I would like to know more about their regular jets not the H. O. T ZONES. Not being Waterway are they still built with quality. How does this tub rate for therapy compare to the others. Thanks for this site cheers!

Patricia Weiser
Guest

Found a dealer that carries Marquis, looking at the Vector 94L (44 jets – 2 – 2hp pumps) and all the other items you said to look for, which I really like or the signature series Euphoria. Also the Artesian island spa Captiva 46 jets or Grand Cayman. Which would you recommend and why. Thanks for all you help

Patricia Weiser
Guest

do you know anything about California Home Spa & Patio 1621 E. Spring Street, Long Beach. Also what price range am I looking at for the Master, Marquis, or Artesian. 6 person, no lounger, 2 – 6hp pumps, waterway jets and balboa control. What would I lose if going with Nordic compared to the others. Are there any of these dealers in the long beach area or orange county

Patricia Weiser
Guest

Your site is very informative. Thanks for the info. I live in Anaheim (orange county) CA and looking for a new spa. My old one is a Grecian and has lasted 30 years, the spa is still in good condition but the shell is falling apart. What brand would you recommend and where to go to look for it. Looking for at least a 6 person spa with no lounger. Thanks for the help

Stephanie Davison
Guest

Hi there!
We are buying a hot tub for the first time. I found your website and really appreciate the information.
Any suggestions on brands/dealers in Springfield MO? 4-5 person tub.

Rob G
Guest
Thanks for providing such a great resource, it’s very tough sifting through all the BS which comes with buying a hot tub, especially our first one! We are having difficulty settling on the best manufacturer for a new hot tub, given there are so many where we are (Barrie, Ontario). We are trying to weed out the facts from the marketing hype and having difficulty. We would like an outdoor tub that comfortable seats 4 -5 people with a lounger (will predominately be used by 2 of us), is quiet, easy to maintain and energy efficient. We’re not looking for… Read more »
Angie
Guest

Hi…we’re in Minnesota and found a dealer who represents Coast Spa hot tubs. Leaning towards it! Wondering what your thoughts are on that? Did you choose a mfr yet? 😀

Tim
Guest
Hey Chris, you really seem to know your shit about Hot Tubs. I have read a lot of your discussions and answers to people’s questions. Very Helpful! I read about a guy asking you for the “go to” hot tub with no budget restraints. I am in the same boat since I am redoing my entire back yard and the cost of the tub will only be a fraction of the entire project. I have never owned a hot tub before, and want the best of the best since it will be with us for a long time. Since it… Read more »
Tommy C
Guest

Hello

Have learned a lot from this site, we are just getting started in looking. We love in Bardstown KY, Louisville and Lexington are about the same distance. Can you recommend a dealer in this area.

Thank you

Carol S
Guest
Thank you for an informative, objective website! We are having difficulty settling on the best manufacturer for a new hot tub. We are trying to weed out the facts from the marketing hype and having difficulty. We live in London, Ontario, Canada. We would like an outdoor tub that seats 4-6 people (no lounger), is quiet (2 pump system), easy maintenance and energy efficient. We are also unsure if we should use a salt water system. We have looked at Jacuzzi and Hydropool. Previously we had an Arctic Spa but had issues with the pump and the jets. Help!!
Limor
Guest

Hi Chris,
What an amazing resource you built! Thank you for all your frank reviews and comments.
I was wondering what you think of Nordic brand?
I am considering the Encore model.
I am very open to any other brands you recommend at a mid level pricing in Long Island, NY (zip code 11954).
The most important features for me are low maintenance, durability and good insulation.
I am planning to use an aftermarket mineral system or enzymes as I want as low water toxicity as possible.
Thanks!!

Sonja Aldridge
Guest

I need help on Premium Spas in St. Petersburg, Florida. I can’t find any component information on their brochures or website. Do you know anything about these spas? Anything will help.

The local dealer will add on an additional pump and jets which seems uncommon in North Florida – but desirable.

Sonya Leverton
Guest

Hey Chris,
Thank you so much for all your information. My husband and I are looking to buy our very first hot tub. We are in Central Texas. We’ve looked at Hot Spring and Marquis. Any suggestions? All we want is 3 to 4 person tub with a lounger. Don’t want to get ripped off and watching and reading your blogs I see there is a ton of crap. Any dealers here (Waco to Austin) you recommend? ? Your advice is greatly appreciated!
Sonya

Jennifer Parker
Guest

Hi! It’s my birthday and I’m gifting myself a hot tub (no one else will). I live in Greensboro, NC. 27455 is the zip. Who would you go to in this area?

William Tyler
Guest

Hi Chris,

Thanks for providing such a great service for hot tub buyers. I am looking for a small tub that I will mostly use by myself. The best rated dealer in my area sells Hot Springs products (Highlife, Limelight, and Hot Spot lines). Any suggestions for balancing dealer and product in this case?

Thanks,

William Tyler
Santa Cruz, CA

Ryan C
Guest
Hey Chris – Your site has been awesome to help me sort through all the BS and deal with the initial onslaught of information that is out in the market. Thanks for the education… We are first time hot tub buyers, looking to stay below $7k in the St. Louis, MO market. I think I have called or visited all dealers in the area. Was hoping to get some further insight into our finalists: – South Seas 748L by Artesian – $6,695 with everything needed included – Celebrity Hollywood by Marquis – $6,595 with everything needed included – Master Balance7… Read more »
ryan foster
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what model/brand would you recommend for a maximum dimensions of 76×76?

ryan foster
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also at a 110 voltage thanks

ryan foster
Guest

Hello, I’m currently tub shopping and have seen some great prices on “home and garden spas” from LPI and they have great features, but I have read some very mixed reviews on the products and the company itself, leaving me confused on their integrity. What are your thoughts? Thanks

Shawn Milam
Guest

I had an Elite Spa for 12 years and got tired of dumping money into. I just bought a Master Spa Clarity Precision 8. Spent $7400 flat and that includes delivery, 4″ cover and tax. Did I buy a decent hot tub at a reasonable price?

Patty
Guest

How do you feel about Hot Springs tubs?

Team Mustard
Guest

I live in Battle Creek, Mi and ready to pull the trigger on a tub. The only dealer that I’m aware of sells Hot Springs. However, in Kalamazoo, MI the Watson’s store offers a Michigan made Hot Tub from Viking Spas. Have you heard anything about that brand? Or are there any recommendations for my area?